Texas Raises Secession

Posted on April 17, 2009 by billmanzi

Texas Governor Rick Perry raised the prospect of secession in interviews, stating that the State of Texas had a right under the agreement which brought it into the United States to “leave if we decided to do that.” Obviously the Governor has forgotten his civil war history. I can only imagine what the response would have been had a blue state Governor made that suggestion during a Republican presidency. There certainly would have been calls for a charge of treason against such talk, probably by Governor Perry himself. These guys just need to keep on talking. The hole gets bigger and bigger.

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13 Responses to Texas Raises Secession

  1. Gerard Donahue says:
    April 18, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Mayor Manzi:

    Where I can understand where Governor Perry is coming from. I do not think seceding is the answer. To change it, you change the leadership in Washington from the Congress and the Presidency. Also, A Constitutional Amendment is another option. It will be interesting to see what Jules has to say on this.

    Gerard

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  2. Jules Gordon says:
    April 18, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Your Honor,

    History 101

    Massachusetts proposed secession prior to the war of 1812. Reason? It would interfere with trade with the British.

    Vermont has called for secession for years. Why? Who knows, it’s Vermont.

    Probably others not associated with the civil war as well.

    Texas: he doesn’t like the burden the federal government is putting on the state. However, the idea does not seem popular, yet.

    Jules

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  3. Fred Mertz says:
    April 18, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Gov. Perry may not like the “burden” that the Feds are putting on his state, but he sure does like the service they provide …

    “Governor Rick Perry, five days ago: Governor Perry Calls FEMA To Assist With Wildfires”

    “Governor Rick Perry, last month: Governor Perry Calls For 1,000 Troops To Be Sent To Border”

    “Governor Rick Perry, five months ago: Governor Perry Requests 18 Month Extension Of Federal Aid For Ike Debris Removal”

    So, I have a question: does every Republican actually think that you can get something for nothing, or is it just the elite few?

    PS: get your bids in early, you could be the owner of a slightly used, sometimes abused State!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Great-State-of-Texas_W0QQitemZ170322454911QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLand?hash=item170322454911&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

    -FM

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  4. jgodsey says:
    April 18, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    i’m pretty much okay with texas seceding.

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  5. Jim says:
    April 19, 2009 at 2:16 am

    But conditionally: As long as they promise to take Bush with them… šŸ™‚

    “iā€™m pretty much okay with texas seceding.”

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  6. Jules Gordon says:
    April 19, 2009 at 4:28 am

    Fred, Old Boy,

    I’ll talk slowly.

    Government services voted into law, are available to everyone.

    Accepting voluntary payments with strings attached is extraordinary. The abusive federal government is expecting all states to take the so called stimulus funds voluntarily. A few refused or limited the amount to be taken. (Not Massachusetts-we suck up as much possible without shame.)

    I like Governor Perry’s objection. I think the civil war settled the matter of secession.

    Jules

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  7. Bill Manzi says:
    April 19, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    I have some ideas that might work. First we let Texas secede from the Union. Second, we “discover” that Governor Perry has been stockpiling WMD at hidden locations throughout Texas. Third, we invade. We will not have to worry about the economic costs of an invasion, since after we win the war we will be able to recoup our costs through the sale of the abundant oil that Texas has. Who’s with me?

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  8. Jim says:
    April 19, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    All in mayor, and ridding the secessionist country of a few despots might also be in order.

    Shame on me! I just spewed some of the same right-wing vitriol Jules constantly echoes…next I’ll be teabagging!

    I’ll slow down now so Jules can follow along. I believe the point that Fred was making is that for a state whose governor expresses the desire to secede, they sure seem to be awfully dependent upon the federal government. Or maybe I’m not understanding this secession talk. Perhaps they will still believe they are entitled anyway.

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  9. Fred Mertz says:
    April 20, 2009 at 5:47 am

    My RWT friend:

    You don’t have to speak slowly on my account. I think I can keep up with y’all, even through the twists and turns of logic. šŸ˜‰

    The good Governor could have refused all, as I understand it. The funds he’s refusing are the ones that help him politically, or so he thinks: the ones that extend unemployment for his citizens that are unlucky enough to be out of work. Now, I partially understand this thinking, oil patch guys are used to being either flush or broke (at least, they used to be before large oil companies took them over), but to bravely play with other people’s misfortunes for a supposed political gain are to my mind the act of a coward (and with any luck, an ex-governor).

    Don’t worry, though: even the Texas lege has had enough. There are times when I miss living in Texas.

    http://halfempth.blogspot.com/2009/04/texas-legislature-defunds-texas.html

    -FM

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  10. Fred Mertz says:
    April 20, 2009 at 5:50 am

    Mayor and Jim:

    As long as we have a way to get good BBQ after the invasion, I’m in!

    -FM

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  11. Jules Gordon says:
    April 20, 2009 at 5:51 am

    Your Honor,

    I judge your plan on the allies you attract.

    Talking about vitriol, you can hear your fellow socialist, Jim, by tuning in to WRKO any weekday morning at 6:00 am and here Jim scream at Tod “I hate you” and hangs up-“slam”. They use the recording to lead into their program. Great radio. Maybe Jim can lead the attack on Texas.

    Remember the Alamo

    Jules

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  12. Jules Gordon says:
    April 20, 2009 at 5:55 am

    Your Honor,

    I just thought of a way that, using your idea of invading Texas, would kill two birds with one stone.

    We put the entire Massachusetts legislation in the front rank of the attack, That would solve many of our problems too.

    Jules

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  13. Fred Mertz says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:12 am

    Now, you’re thinkin’.

    -FM

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