The Obama Health Care Speech

The President makes the case for health care reform before the Congress. The President’s speech was interrupted by Republican Rep. Joe Wilson, who shouted “you lie” when the President was speaking to the issue of coverage of illegal immigrants. It was a stunning breach of protocol, and even members of the Republican Party condemned the outburst. Wilson himself later issued an apology. From the New York Times:

His office later issued an apology, saying: “This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the president’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the president’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the president for this lack of civility.”

The President took on his critics directly, attempting to dispel some of the myths surrounding his proposal. Did the President make his case effectively?

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18 Responses to The Obama Health Care Speech

  1. Patrizia says:

    Ummm, ya, did the Dimocraps apologize to Bush after they booed him? The only thing Joe Wilson did wrong WAS apologize.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/10/flashback_democrats_boo_bush_at_2005_state_of_the_union.html

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  2. Jules Gordon says:

    Your Honor,

    I slip you a great question in your on-line debated , which you hit out of the park, and you reward me with your brain dead hit the republican moment when Joe Wilson blurred out the truth “you are a liar”.

    I send him an “at-a-boy” and chastised him for apologizing.

    If you take your mind back in history, you will remember the Democrats booed then President Bush during his State of the Union Address.

    Check out Real Clear Politics just in case you forgot.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/10/flashback_democrats_boo_bush_at_2005_state_of_the_union.html

    I do accept your apology.

    The rest of his speech was a complete waste of time. He insulted me and my astroturfurs again and said nothing.

    Same old, same old.

    I hope this thing crashes and burns.

    Jules

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  3. Jules Gordon says:

    Yoour Honor,

    Did you see that pathetic Republican response?

    Jules

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  4. Jules Gordon says:

    Patrizia

    You nailed it kid. You must be an astroturfer, un-American, interrupter, Nazi, brownshirt, liar just like me.

    I got the “T” shirt.

    Welcome to the club.

    Jules

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  5. Jules Gordon says:

    Your Honor,

    Checked HR3200. There is no place that even discusses illegal aliens which means they can be serviced.

    Joe was right.

    He lied all the way up and down, while insulting us.

    Jules

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  6. Jim says:

    Jules,

    D’oh! Yeah, yeah, we can debate what is meant by undocumented all night long…

    “SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED
    4 ALIENS.
    5 Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments
    6 for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are
    7 not lawfully present in the United States.”

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  7. Jules Gordon says:

    Jim,

    According to a constitutional expert, if the US makes a law benefiting ALL the people that law applies to all immigrants legal or illegal.

    I presume the president knew this being a constitutional expert that he is. (he ain’t no administrator).

    Ipso facto Obama’s a liar.

    Good work Joe.

    Jules

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  8. Lucille Donegan says:

    Congressman Joe Wilson shouted out, “YOU LIE”!! during the President’s speech. The President retorted with “Not true”, quietly. Speaker Pelosi looked shocked as did Harry Reid. We were all shocked at the obvious and intentional rudeness. It sounds like Joe Wilson only wanted his 15 minutes of fame and that is exactly what he has received. It worked and everyone now knows that Joe Wilson is nothing but a big-mouthed Republican phony. Other straight-thinking Republicans were disappointed in his ridiculous actions.

    Then to add insult to injury, Wilson immediately gave a back-handed apology to the President and to the White House. How convenient. He apologized by saying, “While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.

    Representative Wilson’s outburst is actually the cry and reflection of the conservatives who refuse to negotiate the health care issue and anything else for the good and welfare of all people in America. However, now we can move forward, without bias or consequence, without bi-partisanship or tri-partisanship. Nice. Very Nice.

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  9. Jules Gordon says:

    Jim,

    One more issue to make Joe correct:

    The house bill does not provide for punishment so illegal aliens can still be serviced.

    You were right, Joe, Obama is a liar. And, Jim, it’s not the only one.

    Jules

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  10. Bill Manzi says:

    Jules,

    The bill specifically prohibits benefits to illegals. What the Republicans are saying is that the provisions on penalties or administration are not sufficient to stop services from being provided. Maybe that can be debated, but even if correct that does not mean that the bill allows such services to be given. If you disagree on the penalties or enforcement of a crime, you cannot say reasonably that the law allows the crime to be committed because you disagree with enforcement provisions. That does not make any sense.

    As a further question I wonder what happens today when an illegal gets sick and goes to a hospital emergency room. Are they given medical attention? If so then would it be fair to say that Republicans favor free medical care for illegals because they favor the current system? Just wondering???

    Bill

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  11. Jules Gordon says:

    Your Honor,

    It is nice to hear from you. Now to business.

    Muddled paragraph 1.
    If stealing is illegal and you are arrested for holding up a bank (stealing), but there is no penalties provided in the law, what does the judge sentence to? You walk.

    paragraph 2 (your poor attempt to embarrass me).

    Here’s my solution:

    When identified as an illegal immigrant, the emergency room perform a triage and then do one of the following;

    1. If the diagnosis shows the symptoms can be performed later, put the person on an airplane with the triage report and let them see their doctor in their own country.

    2. If the diagnosis requires immediate attention it should be done and then the immigrant should be sent home with a hospital bill to be paid for in 30 days.

    Actually the bill is fluid and is not set, so I don’t know what we are talking about (including the President).

    According to Judge Andrew Nepolotano on FNC according to our constitution if a law effects all citizens then it applies to all foreigners, legal or illegal. Thus the President is in fact a liar.

    Jules

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  12. Patrizia says:

    What the Republicans are saying is that although the bills says it doesn’t cover illegals, the bill requires no verification of citizenship; ERGO, illegals will be covered. This, in addition, to all the other LIES that this LYING snake oil salesman is pushing.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/10/obama-speech-fact-check/

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  13. Jim says:

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/10/obama-speech-fact-check/

    aka

    “The Heritage Foundation – Conservative Policy Research and Analysis”

    aka

    Pattie’s ‘objective research link

    What…..a…….surprise!!!

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  14. Patrizia says:

    Hey Jim, the facts are the facts. You don’t want to recognize them, because you’re a (deleted by editor) That’s ok by me.

    And you wanna know another fact? Since Joe Wilson’s shout-out to that lyin’sak o’steamin’ crap, he’s raked in $750,000 in campaign contributions. In LESS THAN 48 HOURS. BWWAHHHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

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  15. Jim says:

    Yawn…

    S.C.’s Wilson Rakes In $750,000 in Less Than 48 Hours; Opponent Tops $1 Million

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  16. Jules Gordon says:

    Jim,
    Yawning with your mouth open is impolite.
    Wilson tops one million. Lots of people thought Joe was right. Obama lied the entire speech.

    Jules

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  17. Jim says:

    Sorry Jules, I hadn’t realized there were conservative gentlemen present. However, it was obvious to me there were no ladies…

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  18. Fred Mertz says:

    Jim:

    Ouch.

    -FM

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