Barack Obama cruised to victory in the North Carolina primary tonight, inching closer to the Democratic nomination. With 72% of the precincts reporting the totals were:
Obama 56%
Clinton 42%
Other 2%
Obama was expected to win this primary, but the Clinton team hoped that her momentum might blunt the margin or actually stop the train. That train just kept rolling tonight.
And at this point (though earlier would have been even better), it’s time for her to throw in the towel, and time for the party as a whole to rally around the presumptive nominee, so that they can adequately prepare for the general election fight against the flip-flopping Manchurian candidate.
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“Obama was expected to win.” So why are some of the talking heads going on as though he pulled it “out of the fire.” Some have suggested that he got a lot of ‘sympathy votes’ because or the Rev. Wright thing. The tide of politics ebbs and flows. For more insight into Obama and what makes him tick, I recommend “A Bound Man: About Obama and Why He Can’t Win” by Shelby Steele. He packs a lot into a 134 pages.
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Jim,
As an American she has a right to continue until she is ready to quit/win, etc.
I assume the ” flip-flopping Manchurian candidate” is John McCain.
Will you always label the opposition with nasty and pejorative terms? Would you be comfortable with Barack Husein Obama in reference to the presumtive Democratic candidate, even though it’s his name?
Jules
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Jules,
My description is rather mild when you think about some of what has been said about Obama.
While the ‘Manchurian’ label is not necessarily accurate per the book, it is apparent that there has been a certain amount of Bush brainwashing that has gone on and that he feels he needs to adopt in order to win (god forbid).
Flip-flopping is a pretty accurate description of what I’ve seen of McCain. I once actually respected the independent maverick that is no more…respect that he’ll never gain back from many.
I certainly hope that the high democratic turnout in all of these primaries does bode well for the democrats, and isn’t simply related to republicans changing parties to nominate the weaker democrat for the general election.
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Jim,
You like the maverick nature of McCain because he gave the republicans a poke in the eye during the Bush years. Now that he is endangering a Democratic sweep for the presidency you begin insulting him.
How about sticking to the issues
Hillary too flip flops, for instance, Hilary has a series of video statements that, chronology wise, follows her from saying that Iraq HAS WMD’s to voting for the war to saying she did not vote for the war (only gave permission to evaluate the situation) and finally she says she will pull out the troops.
This not made up opinion. The videos are there. I have seen them.
Obama has, to his credit, been against the war. The rest of his policies scare me.
I challenge you to discuss the issues with me on a higher level. No insults.
What do yhou think?
Jules
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“I challenge you to discuss the issues with me on a higher level. No insults.”
Jules,
I’m not sure I’d have the time or energy. I’m guessing by your vast knowledge of every issue posted on this blog that you are very much retired. ;->
Foremost, actually I lost all my respect for the maverick DURING the bush years, and especially at the latter part where he began to toe the bush line.
I HARDLY feel he is endangering a democratic sweep. Particularly when he tries to turn a Hamas statement favoring Obama into a campaign policy endorsement for Obama. Who does he actually hope to suck in with a statement like that — the dwindling 27% that still support bush?! I’m hopeful that he’ll finish off his chances by taking on Lieberman as a running mate. There’s bi-partisanship for you — NOT!
Lastly, as you can see, it’s difficult for me to avoid issues without insulting (I’m referencing insulting the candidates — not you), when this entire campaign season has been nothing but insulting to my intelligence.
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“I challenge you to discuss the issues with me on a higher level. No insults.”
Jules,
I’m not sure I’d have the time or energy. I’m guessing by your vast knowledge of every issue posted on this blog that you are very much retired. ;->
Foremost, actually I lost all my respect for the maverick DURING the bush years, and especially at the latter part where he began to toe the bush line.
I HARDLY feel he is endangering a democratic sweep. Particularly when he tries to turn a Hamas statement favoring Obama into a campaign policy endorsement for Obama. Who does he actually hope to suck in with a statement like that — the dwindling 27% that still support bush?! I’m hopeful that he’ll finish off his chances by taking on Lieberman as a running mate. There’s bi-partisanship for you — NOT!
Lastly, as you can see, it’s difficult for me to avoid issues without insulting (I’m referencing insulting the candidates — not you), when this entire campaign season has been nothing but insulting to my intelligence.
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Jim,
I leave you with one thought. George Soros and the MoveOn.org/Daily KOS (religious left) is putting on a 30 Million dollar 527 campaign against McCain.
Do you think it will be intellectual, factual and clean?
I will watch it and be willing to discuss it with you along with the Republican 527’s.
Remember, I am a conservative before I’m a Republican.
My guess it will be dirty without adding to the subject of issues and vision.
Jules
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Jules,
As you’re aware, swift-boating is nothing new, no matter which party does it, nor does it very often have anything to do with issues/vision.
It’s also not foreign to McCain as his own party did it to him in 2000, nor is it foreign to John Kerry when it was done across party lines.
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Jim,
Okay, I give up. I’ll get down into the gutter with you.
I’ll begin with John “Sure Shot” Kerry. He is a turncoat scum bag who stabbed his fellow Vietnam veterans in the back in public testimony. (see televised hearings)
He has served some 15 years as an unaccomplished embarrassment who got his nick name “sure shot” for frequently getting on the air at peak news time. He lost his own campaign when he disconnected his mouth from his brain; “I voted for it before I voted agaist it”, etc.
Actually Jim, we learn nothing about issues from any presidential campaign because they end up in bashing the other candidate or raising fears in the electorate.
I remember the add that got Lyndon Johnson elected by painting Goldwater as a crazy warmonger. It was very effective. The unintended consequence was the Vietnam war was started by the presumptive peace candidate. 58,000 Americans died, all because of a clever add by a PR guy.
That is why I don’t repeat things I can’t prove or identify sources.
I will be glad to spar with you as we enter the presidential race.
PS. I am 70 years old but I continue to work as an engineering contractor. This along with being a widower leaves me with little time.
Hope you were able to celebrate a wonderful mother’s day.
Jules.
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It’s about time we descended into the gutter. We can pretend we are Congressman!
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Your Honor,
Great rejoinder.
I’ll get my wet suit on. You never can tell how deep the gutter can get. One plea though, Don’t make waves.
Are you saving your pennies for Starbucks?
Jules
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Jules,
I failed to answer a previous post you made about adding some pastry to the coffee it appears I am on the hook for.As a fiscal conservative I must say that the addition of any pastry (at my expense)would need to be rejected out of hand. Should I win the wager we should re-visit the pastry issue. Maybe we can send the bill to Mayor Mike Sullivan of Lawrence.
Bill
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You Honor,
I respect your right to hold the line on cost creep in our bet.
I will, however, bring my own pastry (I will share one with you)and I will have my receipt for the good Mayor of Lawrence.
I can do this because I’m a rich conservative Republican oil magnate with lots of lobbyists friends.
Jules
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