Spitzer Resigns

New York Governor Eliot Spitzer resigned today, just days after being discovered as utilizing the services of a high priced call girl ring. It is a stunning fall from power for Spitzer, and marks the end of a politician who had made some very powerful enemies. Despite the fact that this was self inflicted and indicative of a mindset of arrogance and hubris I cannot help but feel some sympathy for the wife and family of the Governor.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/23593185#23593185

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10 Responses to Spitzer Resigns

  1. Jules Gordon says:

    Your Honor,

    Is this despicable man going to join the growing number of politicians who will not serve time for in jail for crimes?

    There is a growing political class in this state and country that assumes unwarranted privilege.

    Goodbye to bad rubbish.

    Jules

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  2. Bill Manzi says:

    It is not clear yet that federal prosecutors will not charge, but an impediment to Mann Act charges is the fact that 8 other clients may not be charged, and “selective prosecution” could be a ticket to a dismissal of charges in any case. I know I need not remind you that the federal prosecutors in this case are Republican appointees.

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  3. Jules Gordon says:

    Your Honor,

    Notice I did not say a “Democratic” privileged class, I said Political privaliged class.

    Corruption is a human condition not a political condition.

    I know Pilosi believes that Republicans are all scumbags, but I know you are generally fair.

    Jules

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  4. Jules Gordon says:

    By the way, your honor, have you noticed the Democratic budget proposal which is based on the Bush tax cuts fading out (tranlation: automatic tax increase).

    Looks like tax and spend gang is back big time.

    I guess good times are going to roll for you mayor.

    Thank god we have Duval Patrick rushing to get our property tax relief implemented as he promised.

    Jules

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  5. Bill Manzi says:

    “generally” being the operative word there.

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  6. Jim says:

    Jules,
    Relative to the phase-out of the Bush tax cuts, I’m confused as to how we can eliminate a national debt that’s in the trillions of dollars by keeping those tax cuts in place. It seems counter-productive to create the debt as has been created over the past seven VERY LONG years, and expect our children and great, great, grandchildren to be the ones to pay it off, and to then trumpet and advocate for the continuation of the tax cuts that were very much a contributor to the problem itself. If tax and spend means for the democratic ‘majority’ to reduce the debt that otherwise has us relying on foreign economies to survive, then so be it.

    I long for the days of the late 1990’s where gas was $1.35/gallon or less, the economy was booming, millions of people weren’t in foreclosure, the dollar had value, the US had worldwide respect, we had a middle-class society, and where I could actually save money with the same salary I’m making now as I was making then…

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  7. Jules Gordon says:

    Jim,
    I have an idea for reducing the imbalance in the budget you never mentioned, eliminate programs.

    Raising taxes will effect those people on the margins in house payments, especially if they are negotiating a resolution with the banks that will let them stay in their homes, and take more money out of their pockets, just what they need. And please don’t give me that “tax the rich” canard.

    Your argument in the last paragraph indicates you have not kept up with the growth of global business.

    For instance, the Chinese have entered the world of business. Since then their growth has caused the labor along the cost to increase to the point where they are no longer competitive and the work begins to be move inland. (same as when manufacturing moved from 128 to 495).

    Meanwhile, using their billions China is hoovering commodities including oil making oil more scarce. All this and much more happened since your $1.35 per gallon world. This only one example.

    No complaints about shipping jobs overseas. NAFTA is a Bill Clinton present to us.

    Let me comment on taxes being used by the Democrats to reduce debt. It’s a fantasy. No Democrat ever used taxes to reduce debt. We have a local example. Deval Patrick was suppose to reduce my property tax. Well, Jim, my taxes went up. How about you. We are in a Democratic dominated state. Have been since as long as I remember. Are they managing the state and towns effectively? They won’t at the federal level either. And what happens when they enact government health plans?

    One last point, taking money from our pockets will not let you save any better.

    Jules.

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  8. Jim says:

    Jules,
    My friend (that’s a McCain expression, so I’m not sure if it’s a good or bad) ;-), I have a better idea for eliminating federal budget imbalances — don’t elect Bush. OOPS!

    I am well aware of the global growth in business as well as the adverse impact of NAFTA (signed by Clinton, but actually ‘presented’ by Bush I), however, I find it difficult to ‘swallow’ (may as well keep Clinton’s malfeasance on the forefront as we present this argument) that the price of gas at the pump will have risen 200% by this summer simply because China moved their manufacturing inland. Something that by your argument must have only happened in the past five years — right around the time that it spiked at the pump due to the ill-conceived Iraq invasion, and for which we were assured would be a short-term blip.

    I have no response on promises unkept by Patrick (for me, gambling is not industry), but if taxes are never used to pay down debt as you suggest, can you explain the Clinton surplus to me? Was it simply all a shell game analogous to the Chinese loan masked as an 2008 economic stimulus package for which (what remains of) the true middle-class earner will get back very little?

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  9. Bill Manzi says:

    Not to interject into this discussion but I had posted under another thread about the need for both parties to get away from some of the hardened positions on the base and work towards solutions (pay-go was the topic). I accept the fact that spending in some areas needs to be reduced. It is the Republican Party, fearful of suggesting unpopular budget cuts, that has brought us to the edge of disaster. It is they that call pay-go a Democratic ruse for tax increases, when in fact pay-go only requires that new spending or tax cuts be offset by spending cuts or tax increases. Where are the Republican balanced budgets? Why hasn’t Bush submitted a balanced budget, even if Congress were to kill it? Remember it was the budgetary master, Dick Cheney, who said “deficits don’t matter”. Well guess what guys. They do matter. The current account deficit and the federal budget deficit are twin daggers being driven into our heart. Why do you think the dollar, under Republican leadership, has fallen to new lows. And the resulting drive-up of commodity prices is not all due to China. When your currency is worth less it takes more of it to buy the same amount of goods. Maybe somebody should explain that to Dick Cheney. On NAFTA it is clear that Clinton was for it, but it passed Congress with Republican votes. I am not sure but I believe that a majority of Democrats in the House voted no. Deficits do matter, and Bill Clinton took affirmative steps to close the deficit (without a single Reublican vote) and create a surplus, since squandered by George Bush. The Republicans have driven us to the brink of disaster.

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  10. Jules Gordon says:

    Your honor and Jim,

    I’ll be busy for a couple of days. I’ll give my reply later.

    You guys bring up good points.

    I’ll repeat my contention; the Democratic Party office holders are not good managers either. Look at our state as an example. The Democrats ran the counties for 40 years after WWII. That did not prevent repeating recessions.

    The failure of the Republican party and its subsequent downfall was caused by office holders giving up their principles and pander for votes (faux Democrats).

    It has dissappointed those us who believe in conservative principle. I’m not a deadhead Republican.

    Talk to you fellows later.

    Jule

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